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Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« on: 30 June, 2012, 02:56:22 pm »
I Just put in an offer on a Macdonald, 4046f. Anyone have a date and hp etc. No photo yet as there was too much stuff on top of it.

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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #1 on: 30 June, 2012, 06:19:21 pm »
Hi Justin
4046 was made in 1928 and is 5Hp at 500rpm
The ‘F’ was a series of engines starting with the F in 1919 then ‘FF’, FD, FE, FEB, FPI, the last one made was a FEB 1954 and a FPIB made in 1951 and only one was made 
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #2 on: 30 June, 2012, 11:28:29 pm »
Thanks Ian, just have to wait and see what happens with it.
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #3 on: 14 July, 2012, 11:24:21 pm »
Well i ended getting the engine and picked it up today. This is the way i like to find them, complete and close to home. It has been sitting under a tree for at least 20 years but was well covered. Got the oil can out and got everything moving.
I was going to try and start it but had no kero on hand. The diesel side of the tank is still 3/4 full but needs a good clean out.
Any tips on starting as this is my first mac.
Is this the original transport?
 
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #4 on: 15 July, 2012, 03:39:15 pm »
What a lucky find, has it been restored once before??
Looking at the McDonald book there is pictures that show trolleys with wheels just like yours including a wooden box at one end so I would say the transport is original
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #5 on: 15 July, 2012, 06:47:06 pm »
G'day Ian,
I think it may have been an older resto. The hopper, flywheels and tank look to have been repainted at some stage. I have been looking at a few mcdonald pics but haven't found any with a similar transporter. I'll have to get a book to try and understand when all the different models and changes took place, sure were many.

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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #6 on: 15 July, 2012, 09:49:22 pm »
Hi Justin
Pictures from A. H. McDonald book for the purpose of research
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #7 on: 15 July, 2012, 11:01:38 pm »
Very nice Justin, you've done well there mate.  Can't help you with startup, but I reckon it shouldn't be too big a deal.  Drop a bit of oil on the piston/cylinder in the meantime.
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #8 on: 15 July, 2012, 11:03:37 pm »
Sorry mate, I was thinking it was a horizontal piston...  forget my unhelpful instructions in the last post. 
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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #9 on: 17 July, 2012, 02:02:27 am »
Thankyou Ian for the pictures. There must be alot of transporters out there given the amount of engines made.

Sorry mate, I was thinking it was a horizontal piston...  forget my unhelpful instructions in the last post. 

Not sure what your talking about hoarder1

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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #10 on: 18 July, 2012, 06:56:06 pm »
Justin,  thats a nice engine - a real beast - the best kind.  I've got a copy of the AH McDonald book if you want a look.  No idea on originality of wheels or transport, other than the obvious - that the tool box is an old army ammo box or the like.

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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #11 on: 19 July, 2012, 10:29:14 am »
G'day Mike,
Yea thanks, i'll have a read one day. Hope you had a good holiday. I can see why the Mcdonalds are a popular engine, it has groan on me. No magneto or spark plug to worry about, i think it is a keeper.
I got it going yesterday, i had to straighten the fuel valve redress it and lap it in. Put it all back together swung it over and away it went.  It is running a bit quick and when you back it off one notch it is too slow, but i'll work on that. Also leaks some fuel out of the needle, may need repacking.

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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #12 on: 19 January, 2020, 03:01:01 pm »
Lets open this up for  quick question.
Hi Justin have you got this Mac running properly now? If so can you post a couple ofpics of the transporter and it's turntable/pivot point please?
Cheers, John & Dee. Coopernook. NSW.

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Re: Mcdonald super imperial diesel
« Reply #13 on: 21 January, 2020, 05:46:44 pm »
Hello Justin,
A nice pick up with the MacDonald engine and a very nice transporter to go with it.
It will enable you to while away the hours perfecting it to the standard you want, although by the look of the pictures you have a very good head start.
I have two SPI 4HP MacDonald engines which will become one going engine that needs a transporter. I will build one for it soon as I can acquire some steel wheels which are becoming very scarce to get due to collectors hunting them down.
The other engine will need another head, oil pump and a gib key for the fly wheel, I keep looking around and eventually I may come across someone selling these items or at a clearing sale.
Time is on my side, I don't need to hurry.
Keep us posted how you go with your tuning, I believe one of the secrets with this type of fuel system is having the needle valve grounded properly and adjusted to seat and seal properly to avoid excessive over fuelling .Lots of exhaust smoke as a result and a sharp diesel Knock.
Cheers for now,
Grasshopper Max from Warwick Qld.

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« Reply #14 on: 21 January, 2020, 10:15:16 pm »
I will be most happy just to get mine to start and smoke out the compound.   ::)

At the RIR when the most stationary engines running at one time a guy bought a small twin cylinder Petter diesel in on the Sunday morning for the attempt later in the day. I went and had a quick look at it as we are scruitineers for the club and I had no issues with it at all. So it cam etime to start it up. Well it took a fair amount of 'start ya bastard' down its throat and once running really belched out a heap of smoke all the time it ran, I loved it. Not to mention that it did make the grade at the right time and was included in the record breaking attempt.
Cheers, John & Dee. Coopernook. NSW.