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Kim S

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Re: Very rare Australian engines.
« Reply #165 on: 17 January, 2018, 01:10:48 pm »
Interesting, know the Letona engine and seen another at Campbelltown and one for sale in TOMM years ago, but that could be one in the same engine , what is curious is these engines have the blind cylinders as the K&L engines sold to Hornsby and others.
The Bartram catalogue pictures show the CR with detachable heads and other differences that pertain towards the Bartram build type, regardless of all this they appear to be a very rare engine! 

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« Reply #166 on: 17 January, 2018, 01:48:11 pm »
Not for sale, but an old TOMM article.

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Kim S

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« Reply #167 on: 17 January, 2018, 05:19:18 pm »
Interesting, for the above engine using the calculation of the time for theoretical hp for a 4 cycle combustion engine, bore 6.75 x 6.75 x stroke 7.5 x rpm 1000 divided by 18000 then times 4 cylinders =75.93hp , not that far off the developed hp being 60, frictional loses not that great, also get a displacement of about 1074 inches, that's if my calculations are correct???.....can't imagine the foot pounds of torque it would develop at 1000rpm!

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« Reply #168 on: 17 January, 2018, 09:28:56 pm »
They also made the BW bartram in a twin cylinders as well. Not sure what its letter designation was though
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« Reply #169 on: 17 January, 2018, 10:12:07 pm »
What about the larger 8 or 10hp series of 4 stroke baveu engines and 6hp 2 stroke? How rare would those be as the smaller 2 and 4 stroke ones are more common.

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« Reply #170 on: 18 January, 2018, 07:53:33 am »
They also made the BW bartram in a twin cylinders as well. Not sure what its letter designation was though
I think it was a LL.
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« Reply #171 on: 18 January, 2018, 10:59:33 am »
Patrick, your thinking is correct. The BW twin was an LL.

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« Reply #172 on: 18 January, 2018, 10:38:08 pm »
Two engines that examples seem to have not survived into preservation? even though they seem to have made quite a number of engines? The picture of the 'Humble & Son' oil engine could have been in a former thread about Humble but the image has evaporated ? so will include it here.

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« Reply #173 on: 19 January, 2018, 12:43:09 pm »
There is a small humble engine in Melbourne in original condition that has survived.
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« Reply #174 on: 22 January, 2018, 02:02:46 pm »
The R&T verticals seem quite rare? why they were discontinued seems strange as they would have been practical in many applications?

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« Reply #175 on: 22 January, 2018, 02:16:12 pm »
The R&T verticals seem quite rare? why they were discontinued seems strange as they would have been practical in many applications?
Practical but apparently a little touchy and unreliable for agricultural purposes. When R-T adapted the Carter patent elements (vapouriser, fuel system & governor) to the horizontal engines it appears there was not a similar solution for the vertical engines and they were discontinued. There are only two of the pre-1908 vertical R-T engines on the register.
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« Reply #176 on: 25 January, 2018, 01:49:18 pm »
T. Lander oil engine? a one of or more, can find little else about this one?

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« Reply #177 on: 25 January, 2018, 03:21:53 pm »
Also a Jackson engine? can not recollect it mentioned before?

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« Reply #178 on: 30 January, 2018, 07:40:59 am »
Hello all
Can original O Barnaby Bolton engines be considered?

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« Reply #179 on: 02 February, 2018, 05:57:51 pm »
Burnaby Bolton - He had a model shop and sold English loco and stationary engine kits and plans. No evidence so far that he had any made here. His name was Burnaby, not Barnaby.

Jackson - Had not heard of him. You would think that if he could build a 4 cylinder engine he could also make other sizes as well. Was it a one-off?

Lander - This one I have always considered as a one-off. It was reported that he built this engine specifically for an exhibition, so possibly just a hobby. I could be wrong.

One regret about starting this thread is that there are now too many makes, so they tend to get lost. In future we should have a new subject heading for each engine.

Eric